"Maybe you could".....
Hey, GB.... maybe you could stop asking for money!
Maybe YOU could go to work and support us!
Maybe YOU could build us a K Hall with YOUR money, your time, your energy then put it in our names? for free?
lol.....
it occurred to me the other day...the society is loading us up on all types of ways to reach others....jw.org, all types of literature, all types of different ideas, maybe you could use the tools jehovah gave us this way or perhaps you can use it that way, maybe you can volunteer, maybe you can go where the need is greater, maybe you can give more $$$, maybe you can give more time, maybe you can look at how you can be in the ministry more, maybe you can meditate more, maybe you can do this or that for your family study, maybe you can talk to a seasoned witness & find out how they.....& i know there are tons of other things maybe we can do....or yes, forgot this one, maybe you can quit your job....then maybe you can get some rest, because you can't serve jehovah when you are tired.
how can you get more rest if, you don't have no money to live indoors...anyway, with all these maybe's we can do..... it came to my mind that the gb isn't here as of yet & it seems the org.
is pressing the friends for bible studies...they are saying....we are giving you all these tools & so why are you not getting bible studies or return visits...it's almost as if they are brow-beating us...do more because the society has given you more...it's not us, folks just ain't listening to us at the door any more....they are not even opening up the door.
"Maybe you could".....
Hey, GB.... maybe you could stop asking for money!
Maybe YOU could go to work and support us!
Maybe YOU could build us a K Hall with YOUR money, your time, your energy then put it in our names? for free?
lol.....
i disassociated myself 3 years ago but have never told my mother, as she lives quite a distance from me in the uk.
i've have told her that i no longer go to meetings, neither does my son, who is 16.. i haven't seen her for 3 1/2 years.
i offered to come visit this week but she was incredibly offhand with me and said she couldn't meet with me today as she was on the ministry!!
Cults & high control religions hurt so many people in so many ways. The "two most important commandments: 'love God & love your neighbor as yourself' somehow are not thought the most important anymore.... It's "do you view the GB as God's representatives on earth" and "do you go to all the meetings"
As much as we don't want this to affect us, my mom does the same to me & I am not DF'd... just don't 'go', and I still cannot understand how a "mother" can do this to a child. So sad.
Hugs to you quelly, glad to know that you have a wife and child who love you.
cha ching!
sherri papini is that woman kidnapped in california and released on thanksgiving day making the news right now.. during one of the reports this morning on the today show there was a quick scene of an investigation going on at a kingdom hall.
there was crime tape up and everything.
credit goes to my wife for catching it.. i just wondered why the kingdom hall was a crime scene when she was abducted and released somewhere else?anybody else catch this?.
Jaydee! good one " I like that! "overlapping stakes"!
i registered in the board and i wanted to present myself.. i used to visit this forum some time ago and even register an account but then i tried to convince myself all was ok in the congregation.
now, i'm coming back :).
i live in a southern european nation, i'm a young jw, a good example in the congregation serving as a regular pioneer and ms. for all in the congregation i'm the good guy, one of the best examples in the area i live.
Dear Skepsis.... Have you ever seen the movie "The Truman Show"? An insurance salesman/ adjuster discovers his life is just a TV show...
Can you imagine? All the people around you are actors and actresses, playing a nonsensical game. Would you worry about "fading" out of the TV show? What value did your life have?
What I like is what this guy did to escape "The Show"..... He didn't announce "I AM LEAVING" He faked everyone out, and escaped.
When I was leaving, I said, "Hey, this all is worth nothing, it is a game, a made up game"..... So, to keep everyone off my back, and give me time.... I just started entering hours on my "Time Report"!
If you want to "Keep pioneering", just write the hours in, and do something better with your time, and none will be the wiser!
You will love your freedom, enjoy!
Cha Ching!
(PS, your english is very good, and Scratchme1010 & Magnum had some very good suggestions! Do not get married..... can you say "complicated"?)
...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?
historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.
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Vidiot..... so you know?
I mean, I always supposed it was a business, and the people are wealthy.... but WHO are they? I would reallllllly like to know ;-)
...one question about anything and get a straight answer, what would it be?
historical, philosophical, theological, eschatological, anything.
.
Only after giving them a truth drug, where they have no ability to lie:
Who reallllllly owns/ runs/ rules/ controls WT?
hi guys.. "brother" jose is quite possibly the most sinister speaker i've ever seen or heard.
and i've seen/head a lot of cults in my time.. he's over the top with his voice tone and gestures.
i see a future governing body member in the making here:.
I think you are right... all the gestures, all the voice wabbles, all the shifty moves! Made to make you feel guilty at every move... perfect GB material!
has anyone noticed the wt's most recent shell-game revisionism in the november study tractazine, relating to the shifting of its "babylonish captivity" doctrine, from a 3 1/2-year period around the ww 1 years, to a period now spanning about 16 centuries, or from the 4th century (constantine's legal recognition of christianity) to 1919?.
Hmm? More details please....
In the past 3 1/2 years were... dang! I can't remember! Yay! But I do remember that 3.5 times in Revelation were 3.5 literal years, and a few words later, it represented a "short time".
What does the article say?
i have argued with several jws who are now being trained to deny the org ever said the end in 75, what is your approach?.
I like that, Island Man!
That is is exactly what the WT does, great catch! :
"Well Satan never explicitly told Eve that God was a selfish ruler withholding good from humans and that humans are better off ruling themselves, did he? Yet the org. reads those insinuations into Satan's words and charges him with being just as guilty as if he had explicitly said it! So since the org. judges others for what they do not explicitly say but insinuate; then it is only fair that others also judge the org. for what it does not explicitly say but clearly insinuates."
i ask the above because of my personal experience.
as a born-in i was naive, socially inept and had never really thought deeply about anything.. i was also unable to accept arguments based upon reason and facts.. just like a child.. it was only after freeing myself from the mind-control of the jw cult that i educated myself and matured as a person to being (almost) an adult.. jw's attitudes and their inability to debate in any meaningful way, (they could start by actually listening),means they have not grown up..
It is definitely an interesting subject, I have spoken about this with my sister. My mother, still a JW (since 1960), has never really matured, she is just like a child. She didn't need to deal with "the real world", which meant that her personality did not develop with experience. Just like a child, she was shielded from dealing with adult situations.
Me? Not so bad, however, I will say that I am lacking experience that my husband has, as he was a construction contractor, and had to deal with "worldly" situations and people all the time. He discussed these things with me, but it is quite different when you are "the one" that has to go head to head with someone.
Socially, in JW world I got along just fine, had many friends.... but, of course, they have to be your friend because we are a "spiritual family." I hate to think of what it would have been like if they didn't "have" to like me, as some said, "it took me two years to really get to know you, and I really love you now, but before, I just couldn't understand you... However, after leaving JWville, I did make friends with the nurses while working at a hospital. No problem there...
After you leave......... what do you talk about? That has been hard for me. I don't know "politics", haven't "traveled", am not into "sports"... can't talk about the "games" as JWs are not suppose to be into that. Etc, etc..... That does make it hard. No experiences, no talk....
My sister has been isolated for a lot of her life.... She never got baptized, but was always an "outsider" JW... Being nice to the older ones in the congregation, going to meetings most of the time, but always fearing Armageddon. She was isolated from "the world" and also JWs, as she was never "in" all the way... right? You know how it is, never in the world, never in "the truth.' Limbo... So, I would say that she has been limited also.
Conclusion: Yes, I would say that many JWs are not as "grown up" as they would have been, if they had really experienced "life".